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  • A CELAN TRIPTYCH


    --for the Word, in all Its Incarnate Mysteries


    The Center Panel


    The ETERNITIES struck
    at his face and
    past it,


    slowly a conflagration extinguished
    all candled things,


    a green, not of this place,
    with down covered the chin
    of the rock which the orphans
    buried and
    buried again


    The Second Panel


    I HEAR THAT THE AXE HAS FLOWERED,
    I hear that the place can't be named,


    I hear that the bread which looks at him
    heals the hanged man,
    the bread baked for him by his wife,


    I hear that they call life
    our only refuge.


    The Third Panel


    WORLD TO BE STUTTERED BY HEART
    in which
    I have been a guest, a name
    sweated down from the wall
    a wound licks up


    --Paul Celan, translated from the German by Michael Hamburger
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    I dig limo man and was relieved that his cigars were not rubber. Thank you for such a fine tale. I feel like I've already been somewhere and yet it is still early morning. I wish I could go out in the snow or maybe spend some serious hangtime with Pat or even get to see the many Mothers. The story has me thinking about what's in my bones.

    Nada Weisman
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  • Stories plant seeds that sprout into new stories. We carry our books around in boxes and bookcases and briefcases and bags, but we also carry them inside ourselves, in our bones (see above) and our marrow. Encountering a good story is akin to getting a new prescription for eyeglasses. Speaking as one of the nearsighted masses, it changes your view of the world, and things that were fuzzy slip into focus.
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  • Astonishing. This is a place where it is happening. There are other places but this one is Phil's.

    After 8 days and 8 nights without juice and living like the man in the wilderness within a city of millions, I return to report that Oin and Gloin would be proud of my firemaking skills --and that the fireplace is the best thing I've seen on TV in the last five years.

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  • 'This is a job for Jabes', I thought. In his The Little Book of Unsuspected Subversion, he repeats from Emmanuel Levinas (my translation): "The true books are they only books? Are they not also the burning coal beneath the ashes????"
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  • It's the day after and for the rest of the year

    Phil,

    Keep the writing pen moving down the page in the next year.

    There's too much in the air to ignore it.

    When you think you aren't being heard, you are.

    I'll listen???

    Oona,

    Keep painting,

    I can't see without it.
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    Who's absolutely not ready for a big Singalong Sunday Night?

    Auld Fyre Syne

    Should auld recordin's be forgot And naer be burned in mind Should auld recordin's be forgot? Nary those e' auld Fyre Syne.

    chorus: For auld Fyre Syne, my dear, For auld Fyre Syne, We'll tak' a cup o' baer whez yet For auld Fyre Syne.

    And surely you'll be your whez stowp And surely I'll be mine, And we'll drink a richt guid whezzy waught For auld Fyre Syne.

    [chorus]

    We twa hae run aboot the braes And pu'd on the gol'en hind, But we've wandered mudhaed a fit' Since auld Fyre Syne.

    [chorus]

    We twa hae felt et weir'dly coul Frae morning sun till dine But seas a'tween us nic'd daen jar Since auld Fyre Syne

    [chorus]

    And here's a hand hi'de o'gump And gie's a hand o' thine And we'll tak' a cup o' nart ensane For auld Fyre Syne.

    [chorus]

    Words and music: Robot Burnsoil
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  • Those guys are crazy people.

    - - - - - - - - - -

    R.I.P. James Brown.

    I grew up in the 60's in an absolutely Spielberg-esque white suburb of St. Paul.

    James Brown's music terrified me.

    Within ten years I was playing it in bars.

    Thank you for The One, JB. And for the dovetail joints of simple funky parts tightly-played. You saved my white musical ass!

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  • This is not an ad, though it looks like one.
    It's a message and a way of life.
    Happy holidays, all!
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    "Gerald Ford, James Brown???James Brown, Gerald Ford."May no one trip over their good foot.

    Stan Peter, Longtime Greeter at the Squirrelly Gates Waiting Room and Lounge
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  • "Untitled: A Story in the Making"Eben Weinrich lived in one of those big houses in that development, Bissonette Landing. You know that one? That clump of monster houses out where that stand of trees used to be? Well, he bought the biggest one and then spent a whole lot of money making it even bigger. It was really important to him that everybody know he had the biggest house. He was just one of those people.

    So, the time I'm thinking of happened last Christmas. You know, a few days before. Now, the Christmas before was the one when he gave his wife divorce papers instead of a present. Well, she was pretty surprised by that and even more surprised when he sold the house they were living in and bought himself this new one. But that's the kind of guy he was. You know?

    They were living down close to the city in one of those suburbs. And he divorced her and sold the house out from under her. I've never met her, I don't think.

    So, anyway, it was back around Christmas, maybe a week before. And he wasn't the type of person to do his own cleaning, you know. I don't think he knew a dishwasher from a vacuum cleaner. So, he just hired himself someone. And for a long time, there, it was Eliza Hackle. You know her? Pretty girl. Red hair. Her father ran for mayor back in that year when it rained so much.

    Well, Eben had her cleaning for him until this day, just before Christmas when he fires her. For no good reason. He said she was too expensive, but I don't think she was making more than ten or twelve dollars an hour, and that's not much these days, especially when you figure in the fringe benefit of having that pretty girl floating around your house a couple or three days a week.

    But he got it into his mind that she was just too expensive, so he up and fired her, just like that. And that left him with a problem, because he still had this great big house that needed cleaning, and he sure wasn't going to be the one to do it. So he drives out to the Home Barn store, and they got those illegals just hanging out in the parking lot there. You know? Just looking for day work.

    So, he gets one of those guys to do some yard work and some heavy stuff, and he gets it across to this fellow that he needs a woman to do some cleaning. And sure enough, this fellow has a wife or a sister or an aunt or something, and they go by wherever she is and she's going to do the cleaning.

    To be continued.
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    Word is out- " —Ä Â- «·’›Õ???—Ä Â-???,"which roughly translates: "Anybody got any string?"Goodness, isn't the world of people strange?

    Al J. Zebra
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  • And the Word became Axe, and the Axe Flowered???


    ???amid garbage,
    a mushy moon
    pelted us with answers,


    we crumbled apart
    and crumbled into one again:


    the Lord broke the bread,
    the bread broke the Lord.


    ---------------


    ONCE
    I heard him,
    he was washing the world,
    unseen, nightlong,
    real.


    One and Infinite,
    annihilated,
    ied.


    Light was. Salvation.


    --Paul Celan (translation by Michael Hamburger, the Hamburger Helper)
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  • With the present year soon to be past, can we do it all over again in the Next Year,???.New Year?

    Practice makes for repetition???.
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    Now what's this I hear about people feeling down in their mouth and giving up? Well I'm not having any of it! So reach over, grab the other guy, or person, by the top of his, or their, socks and pull???up! Then pick out that old-time gospel song and sin! Er, sing! Sing out loud and strong??? now don't you feel like you're better? I know I do. Must be time for more of that New Year's coffee! I love you, person.

    Peace on as much Earth as we can muster.

    Running on, MT
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  • Do not ask for whom the Axe Flowers???


    To the tune "Folsom Prison Blues"(as sung by Johnny Cash):


    Axe Flower Blues


    --for the Axe, Flower Incarnate, with no grudge word to grind

    I hear the Axe has flowered
    Its edge a floral end
    I haven't glimpsed salvation
    My blue heaven's 'round the bend
    That Axe it's cleaved my soul
    Cored the apple of my eye
    But that Axe keeps on flowerin'
    Empty flowers in the sky


    When I was just a young boy
    The Word I had not heard
    Then it sliced my heart in two
    Plucked my innards like a bird
    I hear the Axe has flowered
    Just to poke out my eye
    From the soil of my innards
    It dices up my heart for Flower pie


    I bet the Axe wouldn't fall
    Or at least not on me
    It falls only on the fallen
    It's gone on a Flowerin' spree
    The Axe-Times are a comin'
    Axe Flowers 'tis of Thee
    'Tis the season to song Axe Flowers
    Axe Flowers song but not for me


    Now, on Your Wet Stone sharpen
    I, my prayer 'n my plea
    Please spare the Axe
    'N spoil the Flower for me
    Blessed are the Axe Flowers
    Tree of Life got Axed for Thee
    But Who Axed the Tree of Life
    Still flowers in mystery
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  • This year

    I'm going to take refuge in my life

    Although I've been songed that

    I don't have to live like a refugee

    Downstairs the axe is flowering

    A ten year old is carving a bear

    Another added cheese to the eggs

    And pronounced them perfect

    A New Year

    I'm moving into my new heart
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    strolling man scolded crows depart against their will the rusty dumpster

    my haiku wants to kick the ass of Robert Frost we agree it can not

    disappointment is taking death seriously after all I've said

    Igor Coots
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  • [Colonel Henry] Knox had . . . fallen in love with . . . Lucy Flucker[.]--From 1776 by David McCullough

    How could his heart not be moved? There she was, short perhaps, but still the loveliest little Flucker he had ever seen. Of all the Fluckers (and the place was filled with them), there was only one that he would marry. He looked around for her parents, and while her father was easily found, there was no trace of the other, Mother Flucker.
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  • for Celan, Desnos, Pagis, Glatshteyn


    Smoke-swollen sky


    Needle's burning eye


    The taste of word-ash


    In my mouth
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  • (Motto of The Santoka Haiku Tasting Society)


    Coulda woulda shoulda--


    A butterfly's dream


    If I ever did drink one





    Wrestling With Robert Frost's Snow Angel


    How many roads not taken


    Walk on underneath us


    Trodden by our feet of sleep?


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    there's no leisure pressure even bone bends set your drip ends and a ripped quilt is good to wrap your pipes, baby wrap your pipes.

    Nada Leastbit-Fluckered
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  • Dear Monkey


    Drunk on stolen peach


    Pissed on Buddha's fingers--


    Drunk not beyond bodhi's reach
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  • Ode to a Producer



    You have talents common to many humans
    And better than some
    I describe you to other species
    Like border collies and crocodiles
    When the subject comes up

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  • Next spring's rain


    Walked down from the mountains--


    Made me a cup of tea







    Pre-dawn permutations--


    Morning syllables find


    The right choice of light
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    MY GOD'S A BODY GOD

    my god's a body god he's everywhere I go my god's a body god it's something that I know my god's a body god he's with me when I dance he's dancing with me I can feel him in my pants my god's a body god we feel good when I groove my god's a body god he makes my bowels to move my god's a body god we like adrenalin my god's a body god he's dizzy when I spin

    my god's a body god he does a body good my god's a body god he granteth me my wood my god's a body god he helps me when I sing my god's a body god he makes my ears to ring my god's a body god he gives me appetite my god's a body god he's really out of sight my god's a body god he's everywhere I go my god's a body god it's something that I know


    A. Nat "King" O'mee
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  • of all these

    poems

    this is the one twisted most

    around my brain:



    "disappointment is

    taking death seriously

    after all I've said"



    (The Immortal Coots, translated by Mark T.)
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  • Zen:

    What happened to the revenge of Eliza Hackle?

    Or am I just assuming revenge?

    Or am I suggesting revenge?

    Pretty damn poetic for someone not a poet.

    Eliza, that is.

    Oil, that is.

    Texas Tea.

    (and sign it ???)

    Naught Mushpoeteither
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  • ???Yes too, to what Phil says about Mark's death poem. I've been thinking that too, since I read it. It stands with Emily Dickinson holding hands with death. And that's Standing a lot. By "Standing" (but not bystander) I mean: Amidah. A tree standing, or a tree with its roots in heaven 'growing down', of which we are the upside-down image. 'The human being (ADaM) is as a tree in a field.' Exactly as Len was about to say.
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  • Phil--

    There should be little question
    That yours was a suggestion.
    Eliza's revenge it shall be!
    The story unknown
    Has made itself shown,
    To be writ in a short wrting spree.


    By the way,
    You've also given me a title:
    "The Xmas Revenge of Eliza Hackle."Blockt Namore
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  • "The Xmas Revenge of Eliza Hackle" Part II

    Well, he gets these people back to his house, and he sets the fella out to work in the yard and takes the lady inside the house with him. And she starts cleaning, and Eben sticks his head out the sliding glass door from time-to-time to shout something at that poor illegal, always making sure to call him Pancho or Pablo or Chico. And this goes on for 30-40 minutes.

    Well, after this little while goes by, the doorbell rings, and it turns out to be a couple of boys from BrandsCoóI think one of them was Melvin Howard, old Ethel Mae Howardís boyóand theyíve got one of them 72-inch flat-screen TVs that theyíre delivering. Eben had bought it for himself for a Christmas present ëcause who else was going to buy him anything? So, they get it in and move the old oneóthe 60-inchóoff to one side, and they stick that great, big TV in where itís supposed to go and then leave to go on their next delivery. And Eben doesnít tip them or anything. He just lets them go.

    So, after theyíre gone, thatís when he decides that he wants to put the 60-inch down in the basement, you know, which is all done up for poker and entertaining, even though I donít know anybody who ever went in there for anything other than work. So, he goes out on the deck and he tries calling to the illegal out there. Heís waving his arms and calling ìHey, Pablo! Pablo! Get over here!î But Pabloís riding on the riding lawn mower, and heís got those orange ear-muff things on, and heís not paying Eben the least bit of mind.

    Now, Eben wasnít the kind to go out and talk to somebody. No. They either came to him or nothing happened at all. But he still wants to get that TV downstairs, so he go gets the lady, the illegal lady, and he somehow explains to her that he wants her to help him push and shove on this TV.

    They pushed it and shoved it and worked pretty hard. This TV was one of those older ones, you know? It mustíve weighed 300, 350 pounds. And Eben was not what you would call a big guy. He was kind of short and kind of skinny, but he seemed to think that he was extra strong. You know, he was one of those people who was always picking up stuff and doing push-ups for no other reason than to let you know what a Viking he was.

    And they got it over to the basement stairs, and he wants to show off, so he gets down on the stairs, and sheís pushing it toward him. And she mustíve given that thing a shove when he wasnít ready for it because it came barreling down those stairs with him stuck on the front of it. And there was a wall right at the bottom and that TV went right for it and used his body to cushion the impact. And he just slumped down against that wall and the TV kind of pirouetted on one corner and just fell right on him.

    Well, the illegal, she panics. She goes running out to get Pablo, and he comes running back with her. And since theyíre illegal and they donít want to get deported, they decide that the better part of valor lies in hightailing it out of there. So, thatís what they do, right out the front door. Voom!

    Some time passes. I donít think anybody really knows how long. And here comes Eliza Hackle walking along to go see the Christmas Parade in town, and when she passes Eben Weinrichís house, she notices that the doorís open and the riding lawn mowerís standing there and itís still running. Well, she goes in and looks around and hears some moaning and follows that and ends up down in the basement looking down at Eben Weinrich.

    Now, heís not really conscious, and heís pinned down, so she says, ìSon of a bitch,î and she reaches back behind there and feels his wallet and manages to slip it out of his pocket, and sheís on her way. So, she heads back towards her house to get a car or go on the Internet or something, and along the way, she sees this house. It has the best Christmas display in the area. They have lights and plastic Santas and igloos and soldiers and a crËche. And she stands there for a while, just looking it over.

    Well, after a while, she starts back towards Ebenís house, and she gets out her cell phone and she calls 911. And when she gets back to the house, she goes down into the basement, and heís kind of awake and kind of staring at her. And she says, ìYouíre a rotten son-of-a-bitch, but in consideration of this season, I figure the best way to get even with you is to do something you wouldnít do. I forgive you. I called 911, even though I couldíve just let you die.î And she tosses his billfold at him, and it bounces off his forehead and slides down the screen of that 60-inch TV.

    And he says something, and sheís not sure what. It could be ìThank youî or it could be ìDamn youî or it could be something worse. But she decides that it was ìthank you,î and she says, ìYouíre welcome.î

    Unfortunately for Eben, by that time, the Christmas Parade had already started, so the Rescue Squad couldnít just cross Main at Third. They had to go all the way around to Old Polecat Road and come up that way. Well, by the time they got there and got him out from under that TV and on a stretcher and got him to the hospital, he was dead. Internal bleeding. Kind of drown in his own blood.

    And for someone so smart with money, he hadnít reckoned much on dying, because he died without a will. And he didnít have any clear-cut closest relatives, and a fight broke out among anybody who could stake a claim. The ex-wife jumped in and there were a couple of others. In the meantime, the County tried to condemn the house and the land for taxes, but the homeownersí association claimed some rights and that ended up in court, too. And the homeownersí association tried to cut the grass, and the County got an injunction to stop them. So that house is just going to seed. The grass is growing and the windows are broken. Thereís a sapling sprouting up, back there behind the deck, which mustíve come from one of those old trees that werenít cut down.

    Who knows? Maybe that tree stand will take back that land yet.
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    Thank you. Praise is heady, especially from respected quarters. And it's an honor to have someone take the time to read something- we all know that life is fleeting and you only get to do just so many things. God bless the short little poem. I've been reading poetry by Billy Collins lately (distinctly not a serious poet name and, ok, I am not on the cutting edge of poetry) and I think he writes some great stuff.

    I was just thinking that when I write something, I always hope that a reader gets what I mean. I'm less excited about people having meaningful experiences that I didn't intend but I suppose it is just bound to happen at times, damn them to hell. When someone gets something, it just might represent the joy of being known, in this life, on this Earth. Maybe I should try to form rigidly structured discussion groups, so as to clear up any possible misunderstandings. Or apology is good- I just love to apologize. As you have probably already determined, any amount of restrained encouragement will be more than ample for me.

    Andy Meanzit
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  • MT--

    Maybe you should write your own Cliff's Notes. The point is that you have to control the message. Issue talking points. Make sure that it is understood that your poem is a good poem, a well thought out poem. Other poets may have their own poems, and that's their right. But when it comes to your poem, you are the Decider, and you have decided that this is the proper way to interpret the poem.

    (signed)

    A Friend in AC/DC
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  • I don't know that I do, sir. I can only hope.

    And it is a damn fine poem.

    Reed M. Icahn (filed uner Icahn, Reed M.)
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  • Senor Trail, I too got hung up no end by the "disappointment" poetic event. I wasn't sure right away what it meant but the phraseology was so elegant my aesthetic appreciation lobe raced right ahead anyway and called it a classic. Which it is. However I am sure what it means now, and my interpretation is correct, so both hemispheres match. 2+2=4. Your poem is obviously about the Angolan soap shortage.

    Still hanging me up, though, is a Beck lyric I heard for the first time this month: "If the soul is a symptom / The condition is you". Whoa, stop the merry-go-round.

    I have spent the last 26 years or so trying to prove to everyone around me that I get the joke.

    I start that particular stopwatch in third grade, when we had an assistant teacher try to teach us nouns (we already knew what nouns were) and she tried a psych-out by saying "Is doooooog a noun?", raising her pitch on the word "dog". I said "Ah, you tried to psych us out by raising the pitch of your voice." But she had already moved on.

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  • Christmas has past us by and The Kings are in frigid repose, with no one particularly caring except the payments on your credit card owed from a festive holiday. If the timing is right, maybe we can do it again, next year and bring them out like the tamgled lights in storage.
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    See???that is exactly why I worry! It is actually about my feelings about being denied access to participation in the Angolan soap shortage. The whole meaning resides in that sublet distinction. And I am saying sublet with a rising tone of voice that is also quite nasal.

    Deviate "Ted" Septum
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  • I have witnessed the growth of spam,
    Never slowing, always arriving,
    Torrential at times,
    Exceptionally vapid,
    Reprehensibly juvenile,
    Neither stanchable nor
    Easily prevented, it
    Tarries in my spam folder.
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  • Love Without The Spell Check On*


    In the voice of Robert Desnos,
    bestower of good fortune when all was lost and murder moments awayÖ
    they say




    On a bicycle built from glue
    I stick to the motion of you

    Long, long ago, I learned to ride but my mother still won't let go.
    Which is good: she knows where we're going, and has been there too.
    I've got the let go, she's got the get go. Cogito and Ergo, the names
    of Descartes' dogs. They were food for thought.
    Don't put Descartes before the horse or you'll lose Pascal's wager.



    Sticking to the motion of you
    Nothing tormented, nothing sorrowed, nothing blue


    Prajna paramita, glad to meet ya. It's a shondah when prajna meets
    skandha (Prajna is sanskrit, of course, but don't it sound Czech, or
    Ukranian, or some other 'Eastern European language' heard in the streets of Odessa?).
    Prajna--could've have been the name of Kafka's cat (if he had one; scholars disagree).
    Kafka--now there's a guy who had a Prague in his throat.

    Of course, the real shonda is: the skandhas are empty!
    Empty heaps / disturbs our sleeps / willow that weeps / the dozens that cheap /
    nose that beeps / year that leaps / shallow end that deeps / shadow that creeps / looks that leap /
    conclusions that leap (like weird frogs before they look weird)
    Deus Abscondus / holiest of holies Divinity walking the streets,
    turning tricks, so that all desires may be fulfilled
    Light shines, the darkness don't get it, it's been said,
    but I think it must have to, eventually,
    because without darkness what need or purpose for light?
    There was evening, there was morning.
    A long dark's journey into light, in a big heaping helping of emptiness.



    The Midnight Sun, in other words. Again.
    It lives down here to endarken another day.
    If looks could kill and the walls had ears,
    prajna-glasses would cure nearsighted fears.
    But they can't and they don't, so they don't either.
    Besides, I don't think prajna is something you can get a prescription for.
    Kafka tried to get some for his cat, but no luck, not even a whisker.



    Let's try it again, this time without the net. For the dyslexic in love:
    What more can I add that I haven't subtracted already?



    On a bicycle built from glue
    I stick to the motion of you



    *Impromptu without revision, which sets it apart as a weird frog.
    As Masotoshi wrote: "It has a full set of teeth and a phallus for a tongue whichÖset it apart as a Weird Frog (Bakegaeru)."
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  • Back from the shadows again!
    Out where an In-jun's your friend!
    Where the veg'tables are green,
    And you can pee into the stream!
    Yes, we're back from the Shadows again!


    Pluck the Duck! Who have I got to lose??????????
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  • .: Christmas has come and gone, indeed.
    The Three Kings, their imagery, images, sounds, feelings???
    The impact, feeling the cold snow, the lot of it.
    Death surrounded them, as it seems to surround me now.
    I don't know what it might take to shake me awake.
    I have lost friends this month, and friends have lost friends.
    Our reactions have been to remind ourselves to seize the day.
    I am not a poet, I never write this way, but it feels ok to do so.
    Because Phil provides the space, and encourages us all, and does not judge.

    The image of the virgin mother and child in the hippie-van.
    Wonderful, heart-warming.
    That the Three Kings would give all they had without a second thought
    Is something I need to do more often.

    God Bless you and your family, Phil.

    - Randy
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    And thanks, Randy. The three kings giving everything away is Timmermans idea and seems to me to be the key to both his story and mine.

    And thanks to Zenman for concluding Eliza. The shoe dropped. I just wish there was more about the trees.

    And Richardbrown: something will unfreeze soon. I feel Bebop brewing, perhaps. Now, back to google to examine every whacky reference that Sr. Margolis lays out.

    B. Ng Ejucated
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  • .
    

    Whoa, RGM, that one was a real trip and a beauty. At least with Descartes before the horse, his shoes stay clean. I also enjoyed looking at all of the robynbuntin perspectives on the frog, except the scrollbottom moneyshot, which seemed to be just a bit too personal, even if the frog is a weird-o. Being base, I wondered what phallusmouth life would be like and if it would equal tonguepants. The whole thing is blowing my mind like a breeze straight outta Odessa.

    Froggy, Froggy, Give me your answer do! I'm half crazy, All for the love of you! Some call it a freakish marriage, But I admire your carriage Iíll watch my seat, as frogís got teeth On our bicycle built from glue.

    Herb P. Tologistofit
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  • Phil--

    You've caught me with my trunks down. My knowledge of the vegetative world is negligible, and it is an ignorance that refuses to cure itself. I am unable to tell one tree from another and have never been sure what the difference is between a bush and a shrub. I've seen that episode of Monty Python probably a couple of dozen times, and I still couldn't pick a larch out of a lineup. And flowers! Who can keep up with all this stuff? The best that I can do is to follow Homer Simpson's advice: "Leaves of three, let it be. Leaves of four, eat some more."Phil O'Dendron
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  • Basho looked
    Wierd frog lept
    (The sound stayed on the ground)
    That old, old leaplooker's pond:
    Its ripples unspread
    Moss-covered teeth grow
    From wierd frog's
    Placid mirror looking-head
    Teeth not pond
    Reflect in wierd frog's eyes
    Ripple after ripple
    Bite the phallus that feeds it
    Its loverflies



    --Ralph V. Dersehen
    from his collection Haiku d'Etat
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  • Time Cuts New Teeth


    The time has come
    The sleep of
    'I did not know'
    This MaKoM was
    Is done
    To follow Ya'akov's ascent--
    The pillow-Rock awake
    Starting from
    Rung by rung
    The time has come
    For the circumcision of
    Weird frog's phallus-tongue


    Secret heartclock, MaKoM
    Around the pillow-Rock
    Fecund-talk:
    The word strikes One
    'Who knows One?'
    A page of every Haggadah asks
    The last wine of memory
    ELiYaHu left undrunk to
    Drink an answer-spoken from
    Weird frog's circumcised tongue
    De-plagues us through
    The narrow gate of Mitzraim--
    --Schrei the dual form
    That all started with Ya'akov's dream


    Coda Mikra Mesorah:


    There's No-Place
    Like MaKoM--
    The kindest cut of all
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  • "The important thing is that:
    You have to remain crazy
    In spite of the fact that
    You're Austrian."


    --Frank Zappa



    "I'm not a pessimist.
    Because a pessimist is someone
    Who is waiting for the rain.
    I'm already soaked to the skin."


    --Leonard Cohen



    completely drenched ó
    this stone marks the way


    --Santoka Taneda

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  • .

    I interviewed for a job with our local community college this week. Part of the interview was to make a five-minute presentation on time management. I began by explaining why I found the Mayan calendar to be a more useful tool than the BlackBerry (hell, it's got all the full moon corn festivals right on it!). The room seemed very quiet, which I assumed was an indication of awe. Later in the week I got a letter explaining that they had attracted many highly qualified candidates and that they had found me to be a big, dumb nut.

    In retrospect, I probably should have explained that the Aztecs invented the vacation and let it go at that.

    Putting the old letterman's sweater back in mossballs,

    Sis Boombah
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  • Another "permanent" job hangs over my head like the sword of Damacles. Job descriptions are being written, meetings had. Will this one fare any better than the previous 50? Were the Mayan Calendar Girls as saucy as the English ones? Did the Aztecs invent the vacation or did they kill it in a bloody ritual, holding its heart still beating before its astonished eyes?

    What's with all the questions?
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  • Well, the unexamined life may be one of naught but frivolous gaiety, so I am thinking that the same could go for the unquestioned post, don't you think? I was moving some posts in the back yard this week and I found a newt. I've named him Tiny because he is my newt.

    Boris Tadeth (PHC Joke Show/Car Talk Circa 2007)
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  • You people got trouble here?

    Well, I don't know why you people seem to think this is magic.

    It's just this little chromium switch here . . .

    [click]

    My, you people are so superstitious . . .
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  • A while back, you may barely recall, a discussion of the number 23 came into play, due to it being the number on the side of the Jesus mower. Now I see that Jim Carey has a new movie out called "Number 23" which delves into the topic further. I saw him promoting the movie on Letterman and Dave said that he saw it and that it is erotically highly charged. EEEwwweeewwe. I don't want to see Jim Carey really meaning it.

    Don Wanasidat
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  • I don't want to see Jim Carrey "really meaning it," either. In fact, I don't want to see him faking it. If at all possible, I'd like to avoid seeing him entirely.

    Will Agris
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  • Oh??? wait a minute. I was thinking of DREW Carey. I am totally fine with watching Jim Carrey gettin' it on.

    Yah Bahhbee
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  • Oh??? wait a minute. I was thinking of DREW Carey. I am totally fine with watching Jim Carrey gettin' it on.

    Yah Bahhbee

    apparently I am enthused about this and would like to see it twice.

    Dub Eltime
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  • Ohhh! I though you meant Hugh Carey, former Governor of New York. Or maybe Atlanta Braves announcer Skip Carey.

    Mai Misteak
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  • I've decided that 23 times I am going to post the names of people that contain "carey," or a derivitive or homonym thereof, that I would like to see featured in a highly charged, etc. This may take awhile as I have already decided not to use the obvious choice of Mariah Carey. Fortunately I find Carrie Nation to be totally hot. And I am determined.

    Marion Carrion
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  • Ok???first I am casting former resident John Kerry and former Governor of New York Hugh Carey in the sizzling expose, "Cast Your Bullets." It's a wild ride through the violent and seedy underbelly of politics, plus longing, plus an insatiable catsup magnate.

    Whew! That wasn't so hard. Guess I can't count Hugh Carey though, as he was Len's. So I got Kerry. That's one. Twenty-two more to go. Hmmm. I quit.

    "Lost Al" Credibility
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  • Ah, my bony boy!

    In the Estonian Mountains, we used to go to sleep leaning up against a wind-fall.

    I was but a mere pratt then.

    I'll never forget the time a sna
    ke slithered into my wife!

    I wasn't but knee-high to a married grasshopper then.

    Never saw the woman again. . . .
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  • Mark???


    This is marginal at best--by which I mean it's one possible annotation in "The Little Book of Unsuspected Subversion," but:


    Isn't "Carey" a kind of organization that performs emergency triage and image reconstitution on celebrity egos? I thought I saw a failed Super Bowl advertisement and fund-raising pitch for it last night during on an episode of "Babel Star Prophylactica". (It was right after the public service message "This Is Your Brain on Cheney".) I could be wrong, though. I say so because by "saw" I mean I might have if I had watched the episode of the show, which I didn't. In fact, I've never seen that show.


    On another subject entirely (but too it could've happened on "Babel Star Prophylactica" or in one of the episodes of "Chester Psalms, the Biblized Detective" that's in suspended-imagination), I've "almost cut my hair" a number of times, so I know what she means, and love her all the more for it, her spontaneous, desperate leap in the direction of the "great renunciation". If she were a nun,and I her a-nunciation, I'd write her love letters just like Abelard did to Heloise.


    --Shaven the Maven



    P.S. Did you see what I just saw?
    P.P.S. A few days later, I learn I was wrong: the above is not from "The Little Book of Unsuspected Subversion," but rather from "The Marginal Monologues".
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  • Well, I normally only write hints to Heloise but I did watch the hole Academy Awards! I want to be the guy with the rewhitened teeth who makes fun of the dresses of the beautiful and famous women. Meeeowww! I'm indefinite about carey triage but my dentist does carie triage, which has to be a related topic, as I just related it to you! Or so it seems, but I'm on edge, due to just returning from the dermatologist. Prithee, I burn from a hundred squirts of liquid nitrogen. Damnittol, youthful Sol sacrifice! Hail, seize her! Which is my reaction to Reece Witherspoon in plum. Sorry if I digest but it was a tough day at the cube farm. Had to take the showoff lane on the way home and now I'm chilling with East Coast Marshmallows??? right here on the West Coast!

    Capt. Exclamatory
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  • The woman who wrote "Cheaper by the Dozen" was (she's dead now, recently, just) was named Carey, was she not? Likewise her brother, the co-author. I'm sorry to see this project waste away. I was anticipating a karaoke scene. Or two.

    Oh, and please. Mariah vs. Ms. Nation is no contest. Even fat, drugged and whining, Mariah rules.

    K. Rhee Oki
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  • Despite any attempt to sway me, I will continue to eschew Mariah Carey (hmmm??? that sounds a bit provocative for this hour of the morning) in favor of the sizzle of Carrie Nation. Please consider this excerpt from the Wickedpedia, describing the woman I longingly refer to as "Carrie Baby," "(she was)???a large woman (nearly 6 feet tall and 175 pounds) who described herself as 'a bulldog running along at the feet of Jesus, barking at what he doesn't like,' and (she) claimed a divine ordination to promote temperance by smashing up bars."Several things to consider here- first, would she also run alongside Jesus' mower and, if so, could she keep up? second- could she ever return my feelings, while knowing of my fondness for fifty-seven-cent bar scotch? third- would Len the proof-reader approve of my abutting quotation marks and other vagueries of script?

    In any event, get off my back- I am tired of carrying this ding-dang deal! (That was an attempt at mock outrage in order to work in a certain gerund.)

    Phat Drugdan Yning
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  • First, from Wikipedia:

    Ernestine Gilbreth Carey (April 4, 1908 ñ November 4, 2006) was the daughter of Lillian Moller Gilbreth and Frank Bunker Gilbreth, early 20th-century pioneers of time and motion study and what would now be called organizational behavior. The Gilbreths are now most commonly remembered as the parents of their twelve children.

    The upbringing of the twelve Gilbreth children was chronicled in the comic memoir Cheaper by the Dozen (1948, adapted in 1950 film and very loosely adapted in a 2003 film). The book, as well as a sequel titled Belles on Their Toes (1952), was written by Ernestine with her brother Frank.

    Ernestine Carey was a graduate of Smith College, worked as a department store buyer, and was the author of several other books as well. She was married to Charles E. Carey, with whom she had two children.

    She died on November 4, 2006 of natural causes, aged 98.


    Second, Carrie Nation might have been able to run alongside Jesus' lawnmower, but she would have risked either falling under it or stubbing her toe.

    Third, despite my predilection for Irish whiskey rather than scotch, I find no fault in your use of quotes. You stayed well within your quota.

    Carrie Mebach T'Olevirginny

    P.S. Sorry, Mark, but that Mariah the Pariah is quite the little minx.
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  • Minx schminx! I swear to Yahweh that I just turned on the radio to KOZT and they were playing "Carry On" by CSNY and then the DJ came on and said that due to winter storm warnings we should all carry chains if we are travelling northward. This blowing my mindquarters! Now they are playing "Shower the People You Love With Love," which is the song that I sing in the morning at the health club. I find that if I really belt it out, I can clear some space and get one of the good shower heads, no matter how crowded it is when I arrive.

    Lowflow Joe
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  • Yeah, yeah, yeah. But think of this: Here comes Jesus on the lawnmower, speeding around the curve. Off to the side, but in the foreground of the photograph, is Mariah. Short little shorty pants, seemingly (and that's all that counts) bountiful and revealed breasts, high heels and a shirt hiked up and tied around her adorable belly like Ellie Mae. Carrie, bulldog-like, races at Jesus' feet, barking at things HE DOESN'T LIKE. Is that going to be Mariah? I don't think so. He's going to like Mariah because - lest we forget - he may be Jesus, but he's also a guy in a false beard and wig, wearing SUNGLASSES with the number twenny-three emblazoned on the side of a machine designed for mowing, gleaning and other biblical pursuits. He's a motorhead, in other words, whatever his other evangelical interests. There lives not a motorhead who does not want to see his precious vehicle graced by the presence of - if not straddled by - a buxom babe in shorty shorts and high heels.

    Carrie will stand off to the side for a while, as the flashbulbs flash, and then she'll walk down the street to the Tides Tavern and start smashing things and then calm down and have a little cry and pay the girl who works there on Sunday afternoons for the damage and a little something extra for herself and then order up a beer and drink it and then another and then wander up the street and see if Jesus has tired of the stupid diva.

    Cheap, stupid diva. Cheaper, she thinks, by the dozen. Whatever the hell that means.
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  • Anybody here ever read "The Man Who Wrote Dirty Books" by Hal Dresner?

    I picked this up almost by accident in a bookstore in Moscow, Idaho when I was in college and didn't have twenty bucks for a book with two dust jackets, but I bought it anyway. One dust jacket was the normal glossy dustjacket, the second dustjacket was a plain brown wrapper. Good joke.

    I've reread it many times, and it's funny, and it's about being a writer. A writer of pornography in the early 1960s, actually, but the lessons are universal. Such is Dresner's talent.

    Discuss. While you discuss I'm going to read "Futting with the F.B.I. Futter", an article about Dresner I just found online written by a guy named Earl Kemp. Could be illuminating. You'll get my book report.
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  • Whoa??? I'm beginning to see the points and that certainly does paint a picture. Wouldn't be half bad if Flamnigan could render the scene of J-Mow coming around the bend with Mariah on behind, make that up front, and Nation bulldogging him. Too bad he doesn't do realism.

    I just awoke from a dream where I had a chubby two-year-old son named Todd who had super sensory powers. He was also able to make amazing leaps of great distance on his fat little legs. I hate to admit it but I think Mariah Carey was his dream mom.

    I will look for the book- thanks for the tip.

    Natcher Normalnite
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  • Dear Heloise~

    I am writing with what may be a hint, an ethical dilemma, or both!

    My husband (Kenneth Leonard??? I call him "Ken Len" when I'm not calling him "Goosebump") and I live in Hot 'Lanta, where the Spring and Summer temperatures and humidity can keep a girl rather moist right around the clock. As I am robust and prone (and supine!) to heat rash, I have learned that a very heavy dose of corn starch at bedtime keeps me calm in my lady zone. The unexpected bonus is that in the morning, I awaken with what I call "Pajama Fritters." When lightly browned in a pan of hot peanut oil and then dusted with powdered sugar, they are delightful!

    On the other hand, Goosebump says that this is disgusting. He never fails to mention that just because he is a mouth-breather, and wakes up every morning with a liberal slathering of lip chowder, it doesn't mean that he is going to stir it up in a saucepan with bits of clam and bacon. I contend that it is just not the same thing. So my question is, am I wrong to enjoy Pajama Fritters in the morning or is it just wrong to share this information with others?

    Awaiting your guidance,

    Hot-But-Coping Mariah (not that one, silly!)
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  • Gee, I hope that wasn't a deal killer.

    Anyway, that is definitely the Carrie Nation shot that got me hot to trod in the first place. I could get lost in those eyes forever and it's obvious that she knows how to handle the old hatchet, if you get my drift.

    Hugh Femism

    (I just noticed that that photo is actually of J. Edgar Hoover in drag???now my enamorment just feels creepy wrong but somehow not sad)
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  • in re: Taylor's Hal Dresner report.

    It's obvious that Hal moved to Ashland Ore. and became a contractor or at least the part owner of a contracting firm.

    http://www.havurahshirhadash.org/ashlandsman1.html

    and remains a jew, albeit a country one. Check google for the contracting firm, it's something and Dresner or Dresner and something and I think shows up at the bottom of the first google page.

    Oddly, a Night Gallery episode based on one of his short stories was directed by my old friend Jerrold Freedman, in one of whose movies I once appeared.

    The Big Blonde and I are through Ashland five or six times a year usually and have always wondered what life is like there.

    Now we have a window. A country jewish window.

    Here's the contracting firm URL:

    http://www.archerd-dresner.com/contact.htm
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  • Jewish windows with Jewish views. Jewish views through Jewish windows. This was the subject of one of the rumored 'suspended imagination' episodes of Chester Psalms, titled "Chester Psalms: The Goat-Star Above His Father's Shtetl". The goat's eyes--painted by Walter Spitzer (and not, as he'd previously remembered, Marc Chagall), were windows to his father's shtetl's soul.


    From whom do we know all this? From Carey O'Key, of course. The woman Chester Psalms refers to as 'the meaning of it all'. Or, also, and only rarely, when he is in a truly carefree mood, 'Carey, The One'.


    Walking the roofs at night, lamenting her people's loss, calming the hunger and fear of the feral dogs whose howls accompanied hers. Her Chester Psalms never knew, they say, that she was One And The Same. But what do they know? She'd changed her Name to protect his innocence; we know that, because one of his stories told us. We know, because it is where another of his stories left off, that he was about to discover her again at a club called "The Needle's Eye", singing Yiddish songs he'd last heard sung by his father. We know, finally--and this either the more to clarify or confuse, that Chester Psalms carried, in his coat pocket, a Jewish window with a singularly Jewish view, a book, a thin paperback, titled "Petite Metaphysique du Meurtre", and that the face and the eyes of the Jewish woman pictured on the cover was all the window and view he ever needed.


    The name Carey O'Key is important because it is the only name she who is 'the meaning of it all' has been given, in any of Chester Psalms' stories; and, in fact, in one story only: the one in which certain fictional realities provoked the U.S. literary agent, for a certain writer and bandito-archeo-angel who resides in Mexico City, to silence it with his threat of legal fictions. It was in this story, too, that we learned Carey's last name was originally Okeh, she being heiress to the vanished Okeh record label fortune. The Okeh fortune vanished before it was made; all due to Blind Lemon Rind, whom Carey's grandfather discovered. Blind Lemon Rind, after hearing an Okeh recording of his music, shouted in agony: "Electricity ruined my music!" He demanded that the master and all copies be destroyed, and promptly never recorded again. It gave the word "currency" a much more painful double-meaning than the Okeh family ever expected when they first learned to electrically accelerate the circular motion of history to 78 revolutions per minute.
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  • If that's real, that's scary! For the past 48 hours I've been struggling with an internal debate as to whether (if there was no way I could be both) it would be better to be audacious or to be bodacious. I wish I could channel such fixations toward working for world peace but it just seems to be beyond me.

    Phil Mattaleven
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  • SPRING

    Itís not the one in your step

    Not the one in your bed

    Not because grass is growing

    And your clockís moved ahead

    .









    Itís because thereís a warming

    That you feel in your blood

    Letís just say love-sapís rising,

    Say youíre starting to bud

    .







    You trip over Spring flowers

    Bump your head on bird songs

    You two-toe several Tulips

    And kill Crocus in throngs

    .







    Youíre adrift in the hours

    Dazed as evenings grow long

    Her sweet face is a vision

    And her form is a song

    .







    Which explains why youíre singing

    Planted on her front lawn

    Lovesick Tony Orlando

    To distaff dewy Dawn

    .







    Then she comes out to join you

    Goofy laughter, kiss, thrill

    You clasp hands and go walking

    Both on air and green hill

    .







    Vern "Al" Inferno